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posted on 07-08-2010 02:54 pm
The theory of Cain is a possibility and this is why. Cain is claimed
to be the first born son of Adam and Eve. Cain killed his brother Able
in a jealous rage and was thus banished and given a mark.
Genesis 4:10-15
10. What hast thou done? The voice of thy brother's blood
crith unto me from the ground.
11. And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened
her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;
12. When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield
unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou
be in the earth.
15. And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain,
vengeance shall be taken on him seven fold. And the LORD set
a mark on Cain, lest any finding him shall kill him.
According to vampire legend, Cain wondered until he found Lilith
(Adams supposed first wife) by the Red Sea. Lilith showed him the power
of blood which may be considered to be the tree of life. It is said that
this is why the Jewish drain all blood from their meat before cooking
and eating it. From this union between Cain and Lilith came forth a host
of demons and vampires in myths across the globe. Cain is said to have
had legitimate children with an unnamed woman. Some of his children are
regarded for inventing the harp and metal working. However, Cain’s
children are almost erased from further mention in the Bible past
Genesis 4:26. Cain is referred to only twice more after in the New
Testament as the prototype of wicked man. Cain is then what seems to be
stricken from the good book. Lilith appears only in Jewish apocrypha
texts, not mentioned in the Bible or the Torah. Cain and Lilith’s spawn
may be read in the epic poem Beowulf.
Beowulf
Till the monster stirred, that demon, that fiend,
Grendel, who haunted the moors, the wild
Marshes, and made his home in a hell
Not hell but earth. He was spawned in that slime,
Conceived by a pair of those monsters born
Of Cain, murderous creatures banished
By God, punished forever for the crime
Of Abel's death. The Almighty drove
Those demons out, and their exile was bitter,
Shut away from men; they split
Into a thousand forms of evil-- spirits
And fiends, goblins, monsters, giants,
A brood forever opposing the Lord's
Will, and again and again defeated.
(Ll. 101-114)...Cain had killed his only
Brother, slain his father's son
With an angry sword, God drove him off,
Outlawed him to the dry and barren desert,
And branded him with a murder's mark. And he bore
A race of fiends accursed like their father...
(Ll. 1261-1266)
Cain is said to be a sinner but in the Bible Cain is said to
build the city of Enoch and his descendents become great inventors. For
some reason the Author of Beowulf speaks horribly about Cain while the
Bible speaks of him as a great sinner and then just doesn’t speak of him
anymore. It is also said that Grendel’s ancestors were driven out of
Eden and Cain and Lilith were the only two driven out by God. “The
Almighty drove those demons out.” The only other mention of sin in Eden
is when Lilith is mentioned. Lilith said the holy name of God and was
thence forth banished from Eden forever. In Jewish mythology she is said
to be the mother of demons. This is one theory to the origin of
vampires.
Judas Iscariot
Some theories claim that the original vampire might be Judas
Iscariot who is the betrayer of Jesus Christ. Because Judas betrayed
Jesus to the Romans, he and his family were cursed for this evil deed.
The Bible states that Judas committed suicide because of his guilt.
Vampire folklore claims that those who commit suicide are doomed to come
back as vampires. Judas is told to have had red hair and this was the
identifying trait of his descendents. The Greeks are told to have
thought that all who had red hair were vampires. It is also said that
vampires may detest silver for this reason also. Judas betrayed Jesus
for 30 pieces of silver. Judas tried to return the silver but couldn’t
so he threw it away in disgust.
Matthew 27:3-5
3. Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was
condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty
pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
4. Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent
blood. And they said, What is that to us? See thou to that.
5. And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and
departed, and went and hanged himself.
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posted on 07-15-2010 07:56 pm
judas is a vamp not dracula though...
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posted on 09-17-2010 10:41 am
Wow im confused lol
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posted on 12-31-2010 01:02 am
There is so many Vampire Origins from around the World my good Friend.
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posted on 12-31-2010 02:48 am
But I Think you are right about this Origin it is from the Bible I had a look at it.
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posted on 12-31-2010 08:38 am
I Think Hollywood is makeing a new Vampire movie with Vampire called Cain and Will Smith is playing him.
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posted on 12-31-2010 10:42 am
I always thought that Cain was ment to be the first Vampire. I have never read the bible, but for some reason that is what i though lol.......
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posted on 01-02-2011 02:01 am
Then again I was reading this book last night called VAMPIRES By Nigel Suckling (WHAT a NAME?)Any way there is a very old Babylon Legend about about Adam's First Wife before Eve She was called Iiliti Well they called it off because of sort of sex thing She shot thew went to the Red Sea and to live with some fallen Angels And became very Bad.
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posted on 05-19-2011 02:53 pm
i had no idea who judas was untill now
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posted on 09-18-2012 05:52 am
Originally posted by Admin
The theory of Cain is a possibility and this is why. Cain is claimed
to be the first born son of Adam and Eve. Cain killed his brother Able
in a jealous rage and was thus banished and given a mark.
Genesis 4:10-15
10. What hast thou done? The voice of thy brother's blood
crith unto me from the ground.
11. And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened
her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;
12. When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield
unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou
be in the earth.
15. And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain,
vengeance shall be taken on him seven fold. And the LORD set
a mark on Cain, lest any finding him shall kill him.
According to vampire legend, Cain wondered until he found Lilith
(Adams supposed first wife) by the Red Sea. Lilith showed him the power
of blood which may be considered to be the tree of life. It is said that
this is why the Jewish drain all blood from their meat before cooking
and eating it. From this union between Cain and Lilith came forth a host
of demons and vampires in myths across the globe. Cain is said to have
had legitimate children with an unnamed woman. Some of his children are
regarded for inventing the harp and metal working. However, Cain's
children are almost erased from further mention in the Bible past
Genesis 4:26. Cain is referred to only twice more after in the New
Testament as the prototype of wicked man. Cain is then what seems to be
stricken from the good book. Lilith appears only in Jewish apocrypha
texts, not mentioned in the Bible or the Torah. Cain and Lilith's spawn
may be read in the epic poem Beowulf.
Beowulf
Till the monster stirred, that demon, that fiend,
Grendel, who haunted the moors, the wild
Marshes, and made his home in a hell
Not hell but earth. He was spawned in that slime,
Conceived by a pair of those monsters born
Of Cain, murderous creatures banished
By God, punished forever for the crime
Of Abel's death. The Almighty drove
Those demons out, and their exile was bitter,
Shut away from men; they split
Into a thousand forms of evil-- spirits
And fiends, goblins, monsters, giants,
A brood forever opposing the Lord's
Will, and again and again defeated.
(Ll. 101-114)...Cain had killed his only
Brother, slain his father's son
With an angry sword, God drove him off,
Outlawed him to the dry and barren desert,
And branded him with a murder's mark. And he bore
A race of fiends accursed like their father...
(Ll. 1261-1266)
Cain is said to be a sinner but in the Bible Cain is said to
build the city of Enoch and his descendents become great inventors. For
some reason the Author of Beowulf speaks horribly about Cain while the
Bible speaks of him as a great sinner and then just doesn't speak of him
anymore. It is also said that Grendel's ancestors were driven out of
Eden and Cain and Lilith were the only two driven out by God. "The
Almighty drove those demons out." The only other mention of sin in Eden
is when Lilith is mentioned. Lilith said the holy name of God and was
thence forth banished from Eden forever. In Jewish mythology she is said
to be the mother of demons. This is one theory to the origin of
vampires.
Judas Iscariot
Some theories claim that the original vampire might be Judas
Iscariot who is the betrayer of Jesus Christ. Because Judas betrayed
Jesus to the Romans, he and his family were cursed for this evil deed.
The Bible states that Judas committed suicide because of his guilt.
Vampire folklore claims that those who commit suicide are doomed to come
back as vampires. Judas is told to have had red hair and this was the
identifying trait of his descendents. The Greeks are told to have
thought that all who had red hair were vampires. It is also said that
vampires may detest silver for this reason also. Judas betrayed Jesus
for 30 pieces of silver. Judas tried to return the silver but couldn't
so he threw it away in disgust.
Matthew 27:3-5
3. Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was
condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty
pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
4. Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent
blood. And they said, What is that to us? See thou to that.
5. And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and
departed, and went and hanged himself.
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Scottaleger
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posted on 09-18-2012 05:52 am
Originally posted by Admin
The theory of Cain is a possibility and this is why. Cain is claimed
to be the first born son of Adam and Eve. Cain killed his brother Able
in a jealous rage and was thus banished and given a mark.
Genesis 4:10-15
10. What hast thou done? The voice of thy brother's blood
crith unto me from the ground.
11. And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened
her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;
12. When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield
unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou
be in the earth.
15. And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain,
vengeance shall be taken on him seven fold. And the LORD set
a mark on Cain, lest any finding him shall kill him.
According to vampire legend, Cain wondered until he found Lilith
(Adams supposed first wife) by the Red Sea. Lilith showed him the power
of blood which may be considered to be the tree of life. It is said that
this is why the Jewish drain all blood from their meat before cooking
and eating it. From this union between Cain and Lilith came forth a host
of demons and vampires in myths across the globe. Cain is said to have
had legitimate children with an unnamed woman. Some of his children are
regarded for inventing the harp and metal working. However, Cain's
children are almost erased from further mention in the Bible past
Genesis 4:26. Cain is referred to only twice more after in the New
Testament as the prototype of wicked man. Cain is then what seems to be
stricken from the good book. Lilith appears only in Jewish apocrypha
texts, not mentioned in the Bible or the Torah. Cain and Lilith's spawn
may be read in the epic poem Beowulf.
Beowulf
Till the monster stirred, that demon, that fiend,
Grendel, who haunted the moors, the wild
Marshes, and made his home in a hell
Not hell but earth. He was spawned in that slime,
Conceived by a pair of those monsters born
Of Cain, murderous creatures banished
By God, punished forever for the crime
Of Abel's death. The Almighty drove
Those demons out, and their exile was bitter,
Shut away from men; they split
Into a thousand forms of evil-- spirits
And fiends, goblins, monsters, giants,
A brood forever opposing the Lord's
Will, and again and again defeated.
(Ll. 101-114)...Cain had killed his only
Brother, slain his father's son
With an angry sword, God drove him off,
Outlawed him to the dry and barren desert,
And branded him with a murder's mark. And he bore
A race of fiends accursed like their father...
(Ll. 1261-1266)
Cain is said to be a sinner but in the Bible Cain is said to
build the city of Enoch and his descendents become great inventors. For
some reason the Author of Beowulf speaks horribly about Cain while the
Bible speaks of him as a great sinner and then just doesn't speak of him
anymore. It is also said that Grendel's ancestors were driven out of
Eden and Cain and Lilith were the only two driven out by God. "The
Almighty drove those demons out." The only other mention of sin in Eden
is when Lilith is mentioned. Lilith said the holy name of God and was
thence forth banished from Eden forever. In Jewish mythology she is said
to be the mother of demons. This is one theory to the origin of
vampires.
Judas Iscariot
Some theories claim that the original vampire might be Judas
Iscariot who is the betrayer of Jesus Christ. Because Judas betrayed
Jesus to the Romans, he and his family were cursed for this evil deed.
The Bible states that Judas committed suicide because of his guilt.
Vampire folklore claims that those who commit suicide are doomed to come
back as vampires. Judas is told to have had red hair and this was the
identifying trait of his descendents. The Greeks are told to have
thought that all who had red hair were vampires. It is also said that
vampires may detest silver for this reason also. Judas betrayed Jesus
for 30 pieces of silver. Judas tried to return the silver but couldn't
so he threw it away in disgust.
Matthew 27:3-5
3. Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was
condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty
pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
4. Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent
blood. And they said, What is that to us? See thou to that.
5. And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and
departed, and went and hanged himself.
Nice Information , Thanks to share it
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Scottaleger
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posted on 09-18-2012 05:52 am
Originally posted by Admin
The theory of Cain is a possibility and this is why. Cain is claimed
to be the first born son of Adam and Eve. Cain killed his brother Able
in a jealous rage and was thus banished and given a mark.
Genesis 4:10-15
10. What hast thou done? The voice of thy brother's blood
crith unto me from the ground.
11. And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened
her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;
12. When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield
unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou
be in the earth.
15. And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain,
vengeance shall be taken on him seven fold. And the LORD set
a mark on Cain, lest any finding him shall kill him.
According to vampire legend, Cain wondered until he found Lilith
(Adams supposed first wife) by the Red Sea. Lilith showed him the power
of blood which may be considered to be the tree of life. It is said that
this is why the Jewish drain all blood from their meat before cooking
and eating it. From this union between Cain and Lilith came forth a host
of demons and vampires in myths across the globe. Cain is said to have
had legitimate children with an unnamed woman. Some of his children are
regarded for inventing the harp and metal working. However, Cain's
children are almost erased from further mention in the Bible past
Genesis 4:26. Cain is referred to only twice more after in the New
Testament as the prototype of wicked man. Cain is then what seems to be
stricken from the good book. Lilith appears only in Jewish apocrypha
texts, not mentioned in the Bible or the Torah. Cain and Lilith's spawn
may be read in the epic poem Beowulf.
Beowulf
Till the monster stirred, that demon, that fiend,
Grendel, who haunted the moors, the wild
Marshes, and made his home in a hell
Not hell but earth. He was spawned in that slime,
Conceived by a pair of those monsters born
Of Cain, murderous creatures banished
By God, punished forever for the crime
Of Abel's death. The Almighty drove
Those demons out, and their exile was bitter,
Shut away from men; they split
Into a thousand forms of evil-- spirits
And fiends, goblins, monsters, giants,
A brood forever opposing the Lord's
Will, and again and again defeated.
(Ll. 101-114)...Cain had killed his only
Brother, slain his father's son
With an angry sword, God drove him off,
Outlawed him to the dry and barren desert,
And branded him with a murder's mark. And he bore
A race of fiends accursed like their father...
(Ll. 1261-1266)
Cain is said to be a sinner but in the Bible Cain is said to
build the city of Enoch and his descendents become great inventors. For
some reason the Author of Beowulf speaks horribly about Cain while the
Bible speaks of him as a great sinner and then just doesn't speak of him
anymore. It is also said that Grendel's ancestors were driven out of
Eden and Cain and Lilith were the only two driven out by God. "The
Almighty drove those demons out." The only other mention of sin in Eden
is when Lilith is mentioned. Lilith said the holy name of God and was
thence forth banished from Eden forever. In Jewish mythology she is said
to be the mother of demons. This is one theory to the origin of
vampires.
Judas Iscariot
Some theories claim that the original vampire might be Judas
Iscariot who is the betrayer of Jesus Christ. Because Judas betrayed
Jesus to the Romans, he and his family were cursed for this evil deed.
The Bible states that Judas committed suicide because of his guilt.
Vampire folklore claims that those who commit suicide are doomed to come
back as vampires. Judas is told to have had red hair and this was the
identifying trait of his descendents. The Greeks are told to have
thought that all who had red hair were vampires. It is also said that
vampires may detest silver for this reason also. Judas betrayed Jesus
for 30 pieces of silver. Judas tried to return the silver but couldn't
so he threw it away in disgust.
Matthew 27:3-5
3. Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was
condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty
pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
4. Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent
blood. And they said, What is that to us? See thou to that.
5. And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and
departed, and went and hanged himself.
Nice Information , Thanks to share it
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Scottaleger
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posted on 09-18-2012 05:53 am
Originally posted by Admin
The theory of Cain is a possibility and this is why. Cain is claimed
to be the first born son of Adam and Eve. Cain killed his brother Able
in a jealous rage and was thus banished and given a mark.
Genesis 4:10-15
10. What hast thou done? The voice of thy brother's blood
crith unto me from the ground.
11. And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened
her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;
12. When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield
unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou
be in the earth.
15. And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain,
vengeance shall be taken on him seven fold. And the LORD set
a mark on Cain, lest any finding him shall kill him.
According to vampire legend, Cain wondered until he found Lilith
(Adams supposed first wife) by the Red Sea. Lilith showed him the power
of blood which may be considered to be the tree of life. It is said that
this is why the Jewish drain all blood from their meat before cooking
and eating it. From this union between Cain and Lilith came forth a host
of demons and vampires in myths across the globe. Cain is said to have
had legitimate children with an unnamed woman. Some of his children are
regarded for inventing the harp and metal working. However, Cain's
children are almost erased from further mention in the Bible past
Genesis 4:26. Cain is referred to only twice more after in the New
Testament as the prototype of wicked man. Cain is then what seems to be
stricken from the good book. Lilith appears only in Jewish apocrypha
texts, not mentioned in the Bible or the Torah. Cain and Lilith's spawn
may be read in the epic poem Beowulf.
Beowulf
Till the monster stirred, that demon, that fiend,
Grendel, who haunted the moors, the wild
Marshes, and made his home in a hell
Not hell but earth. He was spawned in that slime,
Conceived by a pair of those monsters born
Of Cain, murderous creatures banished
By God, punished forever for the crime
Of Abel's death. The Almighty drove
Those demons out, and their exile was bitter,
Shut away from men; they split
Into a thousand forms of evil-- spirits
And fiends, goblins, monsters, giants,
A brood forever opposing the Lord's
Will, and again and again defeated.
(Ll. 101-114)...Cain had killed his only
Brother, slain his father's son
With an angry sword, God drove him off,
Outlawed him to the dry and barren desert,
And branded him with a murder's mark. And he bore
A race of fiends accursed like their father...
(Ll. 1261-1266)
Cain is said to be a sinner but in the Bible Cain is said to
build the city of Enoch and his descendents become great inventors. For
some reason the Author of Beowulf speaks horribly about Cain while the
Bible speaks of him as a great sinner and then just doesn't speak of him
anymore. It is also said that Grendel's ancestors were driven out of
Eden and Cain and Lilith were the only two driven out by God. "The
Almighty drove those demons out." The only other mention of sin in Eden
is when Lilith is mentioned. Lilith said the holy name of God and was
thence forth banished from Eden forever. In Jewish mythology she is said
to be the mother of demons. This is one theory to the origin of
vampires.
Judas Iscariot
Some theories claim that the original vampire might be Judas
Iscariot who is the betrayer of Jesus Christ. Because Judas betrayed
Jesus to the Romans, he and his family were cursed for this evil deed.
The Bible states that Judas committed suicide because of his guilt.
Vampire folklore claims that those who commit suicide are doomed to come
back as vampires. Judas is told to have had red hair and this was the
identifying trait of his descendents. The Greeks are told to have
thought that all who had red hair were vampires. It is also said that
vampires may detest silver for this reason also. Judas betrayed Jesus
for 30 pieces of silver. Judas tried to return the silver but couldn't
so he threw it away in disgust.
Matthew 27:3-5
3. Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was
condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty
pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
4. Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent
blood. And they said, What is that to us? See thou to that.
5. And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and
departed, and went and hanged himself.
Nice Information , Thanks to share it
“Horror is beyond the reach of psychology.” - Theodor Adorno || A huge Collection of Horror Books
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