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The theory of Cain is a possibility and this is why. Cain is claimed

to be the first born son of Adam and Eve. Cain killed his brother Able

in a jealous rage and was thus banished and given a mark.





Genesis 4:10-15

10. What hast thou done? The voice of thy brother's blood

crith unto me from the ground.

11. And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened

her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;

12. When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield

unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou

be in the earth.

15. And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain,

vengeance shall be taken on him seven fold. And the LORD set

a mark on Cain, lest any finding him shall kill him.



According to vampire legend, Cain wondered until he found Lilith

(Adams supposed first wife) by the Red Sea. Lilith showed him the power

of blood which may be considered to be the tree of life. It is said that

this is why the Jewish drain all blood from their meat before cooking

and eating it. From this union between Cain and Lilith came forth a host

of demons and vampires in myths across the globe. Cain is said to have

had legitimate children with an unnamed woman. Some of his children are

regarded for inventing the harp and metal working. However, Cain’s

children are almost erased from further mention in the Bible past

Genesis 4:26. Cain is referred to only twice more after in the New

Testament as the prototype of wicked man. Cain is then what seems to be

stricken from the good book. Lilith appears only in Jewish apocrypha

texts, not mentioned in the Bible or the Torah. Cain and Lilith’s spawn

may be read in the epic poem Beowulf.

Beowulf

Till the monster stirred, that demon, that fiend,

Grendel, who haunted the moors, the wild

Marshes, and made his home in a hell

Not hell but earth. He was spawned in that slime,

Conceived by a pair of those monsters born

Of Cain, murderous creatures banished

By God, punished forever for the crime

Of Abel's death. The Almighty drove



Those demons out, and their exile was bitter,

Shut away from men; they split

Into a thousand forms of evil-- spirits

And fiends, goblins, monsters, giants,

A brood forever opposing the Lord's

Will, and again and again defeated.

(Ll. 101-114)...Cain had killed his only

Brother, slain his father's son

With an angry sword, God drove him off,



Outlawed him to the dry and barren desert,

And branded him with a murder's mark. And he bore

A race of fiends accursed like their father...

(Ll. 1261-1266)



Cain is said to be a sinner but in the Bible Cain is said to

build the city of Enoch and his descendents become great inventors. For

some reason the Author of Beowulf speaks horribly about Cain while the

Bible speaks of him as a great sinner and then just doesn’t speak of him

anymore. It is also said that Grendel’s ancestors were driven out of

Eden and Cain and Lilith were the only two driven out by God. “The

Almighty drove those demons out.” The only other mention of sin in Eden

is when Lilith is mentioned. Lilith said the holy name of God and was

thence forth banished from Eden forever. In Jewish mythology she is said

to be the mother of demons. This is one theory to the origin of

vampires.

Judas Iscariot

Some theories claim that the original vampire might be Judas

Iscariot who is the betrayer of Jesus Christ. Because Judas betrayed

Jesus to the Romans, he and his family were cursed for this evil deed.

The Bible states that Judas committed suicide because of his guilt.

Vampire folklore claims that those who commit suicide are doomed to come

back as vampires. Judas is told to have had red hair and this was the

identifying trait of his descendents. The Greeks are told to have

thought that all who had red hair were vampires. It is also said that

vampires may detest silver for this reason also. Judas betrayed Jesus

for 30 pieces of silver. Judas tried to return the silver but couldn’t

so he threw it away in disgust.

Matthew 27:3-5

3. Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was

condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty

pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,

4. Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent

blood. And they said, What is that to us? See thou to that.

5. And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and

departed, and went and hanged himself.


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judas is a vamp not dracula though...
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Wow im confused lol
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There is so many Vampire Origins from around the World my good Friend.
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But I Think you are right about this Origin it is from the Bible I had a look at it.
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I Think Hollywood is makeing a new Vampire movie with Vampire called Cain and Will Smith is playing him.
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posted on 12-31-2010 10:42 am
I always thought that Cain was ment to be the first Vampire. I have never read the bible, but for some reason that is what i though lol.......
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Then again I was reading this book last night called VAMPIRES By Nigel Suckling (WHAT a NAME?)Any way there is a very old Babylon Legend about about Adam's First Wife before Eve She was called Iiliti Well they called it off because of sort of sex thing She shot thew went to the Red Sea and to live with some fallen Angels  And became very Bad. 
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posted on 05-19-2011 02:53 pm
i had no idea who judas was untill now
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posted on 09-18-2012 05:52 am
Originally posted by Admin

The theory of Cain is a possibility and this is why. Cain is claimed

to be the first born son of Adam and Eve. Cain killed his brother Able

in a jealous rage and was thus banished and given a mark.





Genesis 4:10-15

10. What hast thou done? The voice of thy brother's blood

crith unto me from the ground.

11. And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened

her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;

12. When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield

unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou

be in the earth.

15. And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain,

vengeance shall be taken on him seven fold. And the LORD set

a mark on Cain, lest any finding him shall kill him.



According to vampire legend, Cain wondered until he found Lilith

(Adams supposed first wife) by the Red Sea. Lilith showed him the power

of blood which may be considered to be the tree of life. It is said that

this is why the Jewish drain all blood from their meat before cooking

and eating it. From this union between Cain and Lilith came forth a host

of demons and vampires in myths across the globe. Cain is said to have

had legitimate children with an unnamed woman. Some of his children are

regarded for inventing the harp and metal working. However, Cain's

children are almost erased from further mention in the Bible past

Genesis 4:26. Cain is referred to only twice more after in the New

Testament as the prototype of wicked man. Cain is then what seems to be

stricken from the good book. Lilith appears only in Jewish apocrypha

texts, not mentioned in the Bible or the Torah. Cain and Lilith's spawn

may be read in the epic poem Beowulf.

Beowulf

Till the monster stirred, that demon, that fiend,

Grendel, who haunted the moors, the wild

Marshes, and made his home in a hell

Not hell but earth. He was spawned in that slime,

Conceived by a pair of those monsters born

Of Cain, murderous creatures banished

By God, punished forever for the crime

Of Abel's death. The Almighty drove



Those demons out, and their exile was bitter,

Shut away from men; they split

Into a thousand forms of evil-- spirits

And fiends, goblins, monsters, giants,

A brood forever opposing the Lord's

Will, and again and again defeated.

(Ll. 101-114)...Cain had killed his only

Brother, slain his father's son

With an angry sword, God drove him off,



Outlawed him to the dry and barren desert,

And branded him with a murder's mark. And he bore

A race of fiends accursed like their father...

(Ll. 1261-1266)



Cain is said to be a sinner but in the Bible Cain is said to

build the city of Enoch and his descendents become great inventors. For

some reason the Author of Beowulf speaks horribly about Cain while the

Bible speaks of him as a great sinner and then just doesn't speak of him

anymore. It is also said that Grendel's ancestors were driven out of

Eden and Cain and Lilith were the only two driven out by God. "The

Almighty drove those demons out." The only other mention of sin in Eden

is when Lilith is mentioned. Lilith said the holy name of God and was

thence forth banished from Eden forever. In Jewish mythology she is said

to be the mother of demons. This is one theory to the origin of

vampires.

Judas Iscariot

Some theories claim that the original vampire might be Judas

Iscariot who is the betrayer of Jesus Christ. Because Judas betrayed

Jesus to the Romans, he and his family were cursed for this evil deed.

The Bible states that Judas committed suicide because of his guilt.

Vampire folklore claims that those who commit suicide are doomed to come

back as vampires. Judas is told to have had red hair and this was the

identifying trait of his descendents. The Greeks are told to have

thought that all who had red hair were vampires. It is also said that

vampires may detest silver for this reason also. Judas betrayed Jesus

for 30 pieces of silver. Judas tried to return the silver but couldn't

so he threw it away in disgust.

Matthew 27:3-5

3. Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was

condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty

pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,

4. Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent

blood. And they said, What is that to us? See thou to that.

5. And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and

departed, and went and hanged himself.





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Quote Post
posted on 09-18-2012 05:52 am
Originally posted by Admin

The theory of Cain is a possibility and this is why. Cain is claimed

to be the first born son of Adam and Eve. Cain killed his brother Able

in a jealous rage and was thus banished and given a mark.





Genesis 4:10-15

10. What hast thou done? The voice of thy brother's blood

crith unto me from the ground.

11. And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened

her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;

12. When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield

unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou

be in the earth.

15. And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain,

vengeance shall be taken on him seven fold. And the LORD set

a mark on Cain, lest any finding him shall kill him.



According to vampire legend, Cain wondered until he found Lilith

(Adams supposed first wife) by the Red Sea. Lilith showed him the power

of blood which may be considered to be the tree of life. It is said that

this is why the Jewish drain all blood from their meat before cooking

and eating it. From this union between Cain and Lilith came forth a host

of demons and vampires in myths across the globe. Cain is said to have

had legitimate children with an unnamed woman. Some of his children are

regarded for inventing the harp and metal working. However, Cain's

children are almost erased from further mention in the Bible past

Genesis 4:26. Cain is referred to only twice more after in the New

Testament as the prototype of wicked man. Cain is then what seems to be

stricken from the good book. Lilith appears only in Jewish apocrypha

texts, not mentioned in the Bible or the Torah. Cain and Lilith's spawn

may be read in the epic poem Beowulf.

Beowulf

Till the monster stirred, that demon, that fiend,

Grendel, who haunted the moors, the wild

Marshes, and made his home in a hell

Not hell but earth. He was spawned in that slime,

Conceived by a pair of those monsters born

Of Cain, murderous creatures banished

By God, punished forever for the crime

Of Abel's death. The Almighty drove



Those demons out, and their exile was bitter,

Shut away from men; they split

Into a thousand forms of evil-- spirits

And fiends, goblins, monsters, giants,

A brood forever opposing the Lord's

Will, and again and again defeated.

(Ll. 101-114)...Cain had killed his only

Brother, slain his father's son

With an angry sword, God drove him off,



Outlawed him to the dry and barren desert,

And branded him with a murder's mark. And he bore

A race of fiends accursed like their father...

(Ll. 1261-1266)



Cain is said to be a sinner but in the Bible Cain is said to

build the city of Enoch and his descendents become great inventors. For

some reason the Author of Beowulf speaks horribly about Cain while the

Bible speaks of him as a great sinner and then just doesn't speak of him

anymore. It is also said that Grendel's ancestors were driven out of

Eden and Cain and Lilith were the only two driven out by God. "The

Almighty drove those demons out." The only other mention of sin in Eden

is when Lilith is mentioned. Lilith said the holy name of God and was

thence forth banished from Eden forever. In Jewish mythology she is said

to be the mother of demons. This is one theory to the origin of

vampires.

Judas Iscariot

Some theories claim that the original vampire might be Judas

Iscariot who is the betrayer of Jesus Christ. Because Judas betrayed

Jesus to the Romans, he and his family were cursed for this evil deed.

The Bible states that Judas committed suicide because of his guilt.

Vampire folklore claims that those who commit suicide are doomed to come

back as vampires. Judas is told to have had red hair and this was the

identifying trait of his descendents. The Greeks are told to have

thought that all who had red hair were vampires. It is also said that

vampires may detest silver for this reason also. Judas betrayed Jesus

for 30 pieces of silver. Judas tried to return the silver but couldn't

so he threw it away in disgust.

Matthew 27:3-5

3. Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was

condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty

pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,

4. Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent

blood. And they said, What is that to us? See thou to that.

5. And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and

departed, and went and hanged himself.





Nice Information , Thanks to share it

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Quote Post
posted on 09-18-2012 05:52 am
Originally posted by Admin

The theory of Cain is a possibility and this is why. Cain is claimed

to be the first born son of Adam and Eve. Cain killed his brother Able

in a jealous rage and was thus banished and given a mark.





Genesis 4:10-15

10. What hast thou done? The voice of thy brother's blood

crith unto me from the ground.

11. And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened

her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;

12. When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield

unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou

be in the earth.

15. And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain,

vengeance shall be taken on him seven fold. And the LORD set

a mark on Cain, lest any finding him shall kill him.



According to vampire legend, Cain wondered until he found Lilith

(Adams supposed first wife) by the Red Sea. Lilith showed him the power

of blood which may be considered to be the tree of life. It is said that

this is why the Jewish drain all blood from their meat before cooking

and eating it. From this union between Cain and Lilith came forth a host

of demons and vampires in myths across the globe. Cain is said to have

had legitimate children with an unnamed woman. Some of his children are

regarded for inventing the harp and metal working. However, Cain's

children are almost erased from further mention in the Bible past

Genesis 4:26. Cain is referred to only twice more after in the New

Testament as the prototype of wicked man. Cain is then what seems to be

stricken from the good book. Lilith appears only in Jewish apocrypha

texts, not mentioned in the Bible or the Torah. Cain and Lilith's spawn

may be read in the epic poem Beowulf.

Beowulf

Till the monster stirred, that demon, that fiend,

Grendel, who haunted the moors, the wild

Marshes, and made his home in a hell

Not hell but earth. He was spawned in that slime,

Conceived by a pair of those monsters born

Of Cain, murderous creatures banished

By God, punished forever for the crime

Of Abel's death. The Almighty drove



Those demons out, and their exile was bitter,

Shut away from men; they split

Into a thousand forms of evil-- spirits

And fiends, goblins, monsters, giants,

A brood forever opposing the Lord's

Will, and again and again defeated.

(Ll. 101-114)...Cain had killed his only

Brother, slain his father's son

With an angry sword, God drove him off,



Outlawed him to the dry and barren desert,

And branded him with a murder's mark. And he bore

A race of fiends accursed like their father...

(Ll. 1261-1266)



Cain is said to be a sinner but in the Bible Cain is said to

build the city of Enoch and his descendents become great inventors. For

some reason the Author of Beowulf speaks horribly about Cain while the

Bible speaks of him as a great sinner and then just doesn't speak of him

anymore. It is also said that Grendel's ancestors were driven out of

Eden and Cain and Lilith were the only two driven out by God. "The

Almighty drove those demons out." The only other mention of sin in Eden

is when Lilith is mentioned. Lilith said the holy name of God and was

thence forth banished from Eden forever. In Jewish mythology she is said

to be the mother of demons. This is one theory to the origin of

vampires.

Judas Iscariot

Some theories claim that the original vampire might be Judas

Iscariot who is the betrayer of Jesus Christ. Because Judas betrayed

Jesus to the Romans, he and his family were cursed for this evil deed.

The Bible states that Judas committed suicide because of his guilt.

Vampire folklore claims that those who commit suicide are doomed to come

back as vampires. Judas is told to have had red hair and this was the

identifying trait of his descendents. The Greeks are told to have

thought that all who had red hair were vampires. It is also said that

vampires may detest silver for this reason also. Judas betrayed Jesus

for 30 pieces of silver. Judas tried to return the silver but couldn't

so he threw it away in disgust.

Matthew 27:3-5

3. Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was

condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty

pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,

4. Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent

blood. And they said, What is that to us? See thou to that.

5. And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and

departed, and went and hanged himself.





Nice Information , Thanks to share it

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Quote Post
posted on 09-18-2012 05:53 am
Originally posted by Admin

The theory of Cain is a possibility and this is why. Cain is claimed

to be the first born son of Adam and Eve. Cain killed his brother Able

in a jealous rage and was thus banished and given a mark.





Genesis 4:10-15

10. What hast thou done? The voice of thy brother's blood

crith unto me from the ground.

11. And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened

her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;

12. When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield

unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou

be in the earth.

15. And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain,

vengeance shall be taken on him seven fold. And the LORD set

a mark on Cain, lest any finding him shall kill him.



According to vampire legend, Cain wondered until he found Lilith

(Adams supposed first wife) by the Red Sea. Lilith showed him the power

of blood which may be considered to be the tree of life. It is said that

this is why the Jewish drain all blood from their meat before cooking

and eating it. From this union between Cain and Lilith came forth a host

of demons and vampires in myths across the globe. Cain is said to have

had legitimate children with an unnamed woman. Some of his children are

regarded for inventing the harp and metal working. However, Cain's

children are almost erased from further mention in the Bible past

Genesis 4:26. Cain is referred to only twice more after in the New

Testament as the prototype of wicked man. Cain is then what seems to be

stricken from the good book. Lilith appears only in Jewish apocrypha

texts, not mentioned in the Bible or the Torah. Cain and Lilith's spawn

may be read in the epic poem Beowulf.

Beowulf

Till the monster stirred, that demon, that fiend,

Grendel, who haunted the moors, the wild

Marshes, and made his home in a hell

Not hell but earth. He was spawned in that slime,

Conceived by a pair of those monsters born

Of Cain, murderous creatures banished

By God, punished forever for the crime

Of Abel's death. The Almighty drove



Those demons out, and their exile was bitter,

Shut away from men; they split

Into a thousand forms of evil-- spirits

And fiends, goblins, monsters, giants,

A brood forever opposing the Lord's

Will, and again and again defeated.

(Ll. 101-114)...Cain had killed his only

Brother, slain his father's son

With an angry sword, God drove him off,



Outlawed him to the dry and barren desert,

And branded him with a murder's mark. And he bore

A race of fiends accursed like their father...

(Ll. 1261-1266)



Cain is said to be a sinner but in the Bible Cain is said to

build the city of Enoch and his descendents become great inventors. For

some reason the Author of Beowulf speaks horribly about Cain while the

Bible speaks of him as a great sinner and then just doesn't speak of him

anymore. It is also said that Grendel's ancestors were driven out of

Eden and Cain and Lilith were the only two driven out by God. "The

Almighty drove those demons out." The only other mention of sin in Eden

is when Lilith is mentioned. Lilith said the holy name of God and was

thence forth banished from Eden forever. In Jewish mythology she is said

to be the mother of demons. This is one theory to the origin of

vampires.

Judas Iscariot

Some theories claim that the original vampire might be Judas

Iscariot who is the betrayer of Jesus Christ. Because Judas betrayed

Jesus to the Romans, he and his family were cursed for this evil deed.

The Bible states that Judas committed suicide because of his guilt.

Vampire folklore claims that those who commit suicide are doomed to come

back as vampires. Judas is told to have had red hair and this was the

identifying trait of his descendents. The Greeks are told to have

thought that all who had red hair were vampires. It is also said that

vampires may detest silver for this reason also. Judas betrayed Jesus

for 30 pieces of silver. Judas tried to return the silver but couldn't

so he threw it away in disgust.

Matthew 27:3-5

3. Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was

condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty

pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,

4. Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent

blood. And they said, What is that to us? See thou to that.

5. And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and

departed, and went and hanged himself.





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