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posted on 8-24-2004 at 06:22 PM Reply With Quote
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hey just curious wht do you all think about religion...do you have one? If so why did yu choose to follow it? are you against any or all forms of it? if so why?

plz post, but dnt just rite stuff like "i hate christians" give reasons, so on and so forth..




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posted on 8-24-2004 at 06:39 PM Reply With Quote


Well to be honest as of right now I am not way into my religion at all. I was brought up into this world as a roman catholic, which I was sent to Sunday school every Sunday, and I was sent to church every Sunday, Christmas mass every year, and easter, and the works but even then I wasn't to much into it but I guess I didn't mind it. But as I moved out on my own I hardly been to church or had much interest of going or reading the bible, but I do believe in god and the devil. There is one question that I ask sometimes with church people is if there is a god who created him?
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posted on 8-24-2004 at 08:20 PM Reply With Quote


i was raised as a christian, and while my family still celebrate stuff like christmas none of us are truly religious. the only time we go to church is for weddings or funerals-none of that every sunday stuff.
i think that god doesnt exist, like it is something for people to beleive in when they need someone in a time of pain.
i do however beleive that there is an afterlife. we dont just lay in the ground and thats it.
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posted on 8-25-2004 at 02:51 AM Reply With Quote


well i, like hauntful, strarted out as a roman catholic, mostly because everyone in my family was rather than by choice...as of late i´ve made a lot of christian friend and even go to church once in a while, but for as much as i´d like to believe in the bible, theres always somethin in there that sounds like complete bull, or that just shows a god i wouldnt follow for anything..

i do however believe there is a god, not the one portured in the bible though.




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I was raised christian but ive been looking and critizing the bible lately. Me and my friend, Bahareh,put down all these jot notes about how jesus is a hypocrite and has commited the sin of pride ... ill post like one paragraph ... the whole things kinda long

1)sin if pride: "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." <--- 1st comandment
he thinkz he too good for us, eh?? if its true as he claims, then y would he only show himself at 0 BC??? y didnt he show himself at the begining of time so that all may worshipp him??? and if he said that PRIDE is a sin, then y is he so proud of himself bout everything he does??? Is it because he is God that his own rules don’t apply … what a hypocrite!
Exodus 22:20 "he that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed."
Exodus 23:13 "and in all things that i have said unto be srcunspect; and make no mension of the name of other gods, niether let it be heard out of thy mouth"
Exodus 23:24 "Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works, Therefore, you shall not bow down in worship before their gods, nor shall you make anything like them; rather, you must demolish them and smash their sacred pillars
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i wont take any sides....but u got to understand that the bible was writen by men....ignorant men...homophobic men....sexist men...and so on.
Im a catholic(actually i donno wtf to believe in anymore), but i dont really take the bible seriously...:)




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posted on 9-2-2004 at 06:08 PM Reply With Quote
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I don't believe in religion just believe in myself and friends and family thats all i need but a lot of people need it in there life good luck to em :)



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posted on 9-2-2004 at 08:00 PM Reply With Quote


I have no religion, I know pretty much nothing of it, never read a bible, or even part of it. Ive never stepped foot in a church other then for a funeral and a wedding. My mother and grandmother attempted to throw me in Sunday school when I was young because they both think religion is a good, and it makes you a better person if you belong to one. I know Im a way better person then these so called Christian’s around my area that ive grown up with, and I don’t need to go to church or believe in god to know that I am. I also think that God and the Devil were things made up to scare us, so people will have a reason to be good. From where I stand, I see religion as something just to cause more problems. I have nothing against religious people by the way, I just hate it when people say you’re not a good person because of not being in a certain faith..
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I do not believe in any religion at all. I believe that when you die that is it. The only thing that separates humans from any other animal is our brain. I will also add I have no problem at all with those who do believe in Religion. To each their own as it were.

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posted on 9-3-2004 at 02:53 PM Reply With Quote


I was raised as a roman catholic as well and I still believe in God today though I don't go to church anymore except for weddings, funerals or any other big events when some people wear their most flashy clothes to impress others though they're supposed to go to church to pray. :D That said, I'm very open minded and I respect other people beliefs. I'm not one of those fanatics at all.



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I was raised in a Catholic family. Church on Sundays, holidays and such, CCD on Wednesday afternoons, the whole nine yards. When I started getting into my teens, I began to question things. The answers I got didnt satisfy me. Not at all. I began to reject the church, and it's priests and such. It got to the point where I was kicked out of the church, told never to return again. Basically I told a priest to f*** himself AND his god.
In my mid twenties, I began to accept the possibility of a god, and although I wasnt about to head to church every week, the thought of a god was alright with me. That is until two months after the birth of my first daughter. One night while working, I got the phone call everyone dreads to hear, that my daughter wasnt breathing, and they were bringing her by ambulance to the hospital. By the time I got there, my first born daughter was dead. Crib Death, they called it. I was told by the attending doctor that there could have been a team of doctor's right there at the exact moment, and none of them could have done a bit of good. THAT day, "god" became my enemy. At the funeral, I had people coming to me and telling me Kacy was in "god's hands now" and that she was "with god". That he "called her to him". OH PLEASE! What does a god need with a two month old baby? There are far more deserving people walking the earth to this day, that deserve death, but not an innocent two month old baby!
I am now in my late 30's. Although I have yet to accept any ONE god, again, I am more of the mind that people can worship a rock for all I care. What makes one religion the "right" one? Every civilization has worshipped something, whether it be a bunch of gods ruled by one, or spirits of wind, earth, and such. Who's to say who is right? Certainly not me. Soon after my second daughter was born, my mother-in-law decided she ought to be baptized at her church. I questioned the reasoning behind that, and was told that if she wasnt baptized, she wouldnt be allowed in heaven if she died. So I guess my first daughter isnt in heaven, huh? So I said, alright, let's baptize Amanda (my second), at the Jewish Temple. My mother in law gasped, and said we couldnt, because we werent Jewish! But I said what difference would it make? As long as she was baptized? After she, my wife (at the time), and my own parents teamed up against me, I relented and allowed them to baptize my daughter in the mother in law's church. I had intended to allow Amanda NOT to be baptized, and for her to choose to, or NOT to, when she was old enough to make the decision for herself. Why do we impose these things on our children? Let them choose for themselves!!
I also have a question. Why go to church to worship god? If god is everywhere, then why pick a day of the week, and a place, to worship him? Couldnt you do it on the toilet on a Saturday morning? Couldnt you do it over breakfast at Denny's? Why must it be a special time and place to do it? Hmmm?




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Great points Bull! I am sorry to hear about the loss of your first daughter.

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posted on 9-5-2004 at 01:59 PM Reply With Quote


Yeah I agree good points Bull, and I am sorry for your loss that is so sad.
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For the initial question: I am a Christian. Why am I? Because I have faith. I am not 'against' any other forms, but don't necessarily agree with other forms either. There are a couple christian demonimnations I don't agree with but each to their own. The jist of Christianity is the believing of Jesus, what seperates us into the different denominations is the traditions side. Baptism/no baptism, euchrist/no euchrist, sabbath of sunday/sabbath of saturday, etc. The base is the same: Jesus, the views on how to get to Him is where we differ. A minor technicality, in the long run.

I certainly don't want to start a debate here, but I wanted to address a couple things I've seen some members post.

Jesus as a hypocrite: The passages sited where stated by God in the Old Testatment. Jesus did not enter the picture until the New Testatament. Without getting into a long winded babble about the point of Jesus coming about.... I will just say, in short, that He lifted the curtain for us to have a direct connection with God. That being said, contridictions will be found between the Old and New Testament because it is a pre and post Jesus.

Baptism: I was raised Catholic and therefore baptised as an infant. I believe baptism should be a choice of the person. Because an infant cannot make this choice, I believe an infant baptism means nothing other than a 'peace of mind' for the parents who wanted it. I chose to get baptised in my new church of choice in my early 20's.

As for worshiping God in church: You don't have to. There is no "rule" or "law" that says you have to go to church....only to keep the Sabbath day holy. If you are a Christian, I would hope that you'd treat EVERY day as a Sabbath. You do not need to go to church to worship. Church is here for us to congregate with fellow believers...to learn, to talk, to discuss, to grow in our faith. It is beneficial for most of us (Christians), but not necessary. You can worship God at any given moment, at any given location, for any given reason and it does not need to be confined into a building. And a church, for those interested, is a place where TWO or more are gathered in His name.

Why does an all-good God allow bad things to happen? A question I certainly cannot answer. It stems to original sin, if that had not occured, there would be no bad in the world to stop. I realize many will roll their eyes at that...I used to be one of them...but every action has a reaction. Understanding death and accepting it as a part of God's "plan or will" is not easy and honestly not something even I fully grasp. Losing those we love hurts, no matter the reason of their loss we find a justification in.
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I follow my own religgion and no one has ever heard of it. I do what i think is right, i believe in the multiple egyptian gods and goddesses. I wear an ankh every day to school, and everywhere else. I believe in karma and reincarnation, and after life, divine intervention stuff like that. I think everybody should believe what they want to, let them skew the image of god to their own liking, and i believe, after all, that all of us created god ourselves. But i personally don't believe in him........
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posted on 10-22-2004 at 11:05 PM Reply With Quote
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The Stones say, "religion is a state of mind that I don't need". I found further that God means dog.


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posted on 11-12-2004 at 12:46 PM Reply With Quote


wow i agree with that all the way but i'm still strong on what i believe, but i guess you wouldn't really call it a religion....oh well
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Hello everybody! To be honest, I study Catholic Theology.
I found out that there is a big problem in the distinction between God and the church. Many people dislike what members of the church are doing and saying; that's why they decide not to believe in god. But in my view faith is not a decision, it is a deep, true and honest feeling you got in your heart and soul. As long as you are satisfied and really happy without ignoring your limitations, everything seems quite fine to me. Wether you are believing in the Christian God, in something else or in nothing ... your choice. Definitely there should be no wars because of different beliefs; this is immature, cruel and stupid - it is the best to accept, respect or, if this is not possible, just to ignore what you dislike.
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Hello everybody! To be honest, I study Catholic Theology.
I found out that there is a big problem in the distinction between God and the church. Many people dislike what members of the church are doing and saying; that's why they decide not to believe in god. But in my view faith is not a decision, it is a deep, true and honest feeling you got in your heart and soul. As long as you are satisfied and really happy without ignoring your limitations, everything seems quite fine to me. Wether you are believing in the Christian God, in something else or in nothing ... your choice. Definitely there should be no wars because of different beliefs; this is immature, cruel and stupid - it is the best to accept, respect or, if this is not possible, just to ignore what you dislike.


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I hate religions, It's useless as a clock that doesn't work.



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I really dont have one, I just go off the greek mythololgy, a little of everything placed into a bowl and mix it all and thats mine really, to other people they would call that being a paggan but its not



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i was raised having a religion but i don't follow it anymore once i became an adult. I think all religions are man made. I do believe in God and the Devil and all that. I do believe in the bible BUT I don't know if everything in it is right. Why? because the bible has been translated over and over again in different languages and all that and i think that many times its true meanings have been lost and i think that because of the translating of the words also the meanings have changed. So who knows what it originally said. I do think that if everyone in this world were to follow what the bible said this world would be perfect. But we are all sinners and no one can follow all of the rules of the bible if they tried. Religions also add their own beleifs or take away from what the bible says to their own benifit. But thats just man doing it. I don't beleive we all go to heaven or hell when we die. I think this life is a test and depending on how you live it will depend what happens to us later. That's just what I think.
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Well I had a religion but I got rid of it and became Wiccan.



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I believe that Christians have the wrong idea about god. Personally I don't believe that any priest, rabbi, or holy man can tell me about god. There is no middle-man that gets 10% every sunday and tells you to pray harder inorder for your troubles to go away. My belief is more like Buddhism where as one must seek god through there own personal experience, and the use of ones mind. I am not Buddhist but I feel they have very goods ways of worship. This is my advise to anyone, and I also tell everyone of this. Do NOT go to church every sunday thinking your getting closer to god. Instead learn to know yourself meaning your sub conscience, inner struggles, inner doubts, even your fears. We all have secrets that lay dormant in our bodies that most have not tapped into. god given talents, and emotions that we will never be able discover by going about the daily grind and giving 10% of your paycheck to to be told that you are closer to god. I for one think that it is more or less disrespectful to god to not utilize the full potential of our bodies. Thats is all I will say for now, and also I am so very sorry to hear about your lost child B.



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